NVH Road Test

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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Technician » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:45 pm

Thanks Steve for your feedback.

Interesting that you mention the pc. I seem to be having no end of problems with pc's at this time. I can now confirm that the USB lead and sockets are not the problem. Today I copied the NVH file from the hp laptop to the Sony laptop I have after downloading the latest version picoscope software on both laptop pc's.

When I opened Pico diagnostics software and loaded the NVH file, this is on the Sony laptop pc, I then depressed the button on the software to start the file running from the beginning. At first the software does not look as though the file is going to run, and if you depress the play button again this is one part where the software pico diagnostics picks up an error and says that the software needs to close. The software goes on to say that the operator can put in their email address and a note about the failure before sending it, however the software by this time has locked up and the message cannot be saved to file nor sent.

At one point when I could not close the pico diagnostics software I somehow managed to open another pico diagnostics software program again, and this second software was operating OK, but the first software opened was still locked up on screen. I ended up shutting down the laptop completely and restarting it. I opened the NVH software file and this time after waiting a few minutes the file runs, but it does take some time before it starts.

I decided based on this experience to try the hp laptop and see if the file runs on there, and the same happens, it does run but patience is required at the start as it takes some time to start running. All pc's locking up are the same on both laptops. The loss of communication could well of been the scope connection somewhere but today the scope has not been plugged into either pc, and I still got the message lost communication and the software freezes on both pc's.

All this recent experience I'm having now with the pc's reminds me of back in the days of University when I was using an engineering design software program on a network of computers in the design studio, which kept locking up and doing exactly what my pc's are doing today. I think the pc's ability to run the software is probably not adequate and updating Windows 7 machines to Windows 10 might not be good enough.

Maybe the software engineers at Pico could provide some advice about what pc's we need to invest in for the latest versions of pico software!

Thanks

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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Technician » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:58 pm

Steve,

I have the NVH software file at work on my latest industry PC. I can confirm that the software operates OK and does not seem to lock up. New pc's required then.

Thanks again Steve for your invaluable help.

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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Technician » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:20 pm

Might of spoken out too soon!

Windows 10 running 8 Meg ram came up with this today;

To close the file I must shut down the pc otherwise I can't close the file.
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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Iver » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:28 pm

Pilot Error !! Have we eliminated that conclusively?
Maybe the software engineers at Pico could provide some advice about what pc's we need to invest in for the latest versions of pico software!
Indeed, they sit there twiddling their thumbs all day with nothing better to do. Pico Automotive scopes are all around the world !! 26 or so Vehicle manufacturers have them as standard equipment to include Ferrari, Maserati & Aston Martin Lagonda. So thousands and thousands of PC variables going on and not complaining.

I have had a 3000 series for a decade or more. I use it on vehicles valued at £200k plus second hand. NVH & WPS included on an old XP laptop.It works as it should each time every time. Period !!

It makes measurements, it cannot do any more than that. I fix the car !!! Not the scope - ME !! "WYSIWYG"

Perhaps you would be best served once directed to HP forum or whatever laptop you have. Perhaps Go whinge there ?

You are shooting the messenger here. That's not nice !

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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Technician » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 am

Iver wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:28 pm
Pilot Error !! Have we eliminated that conclusively?
Maybe the software engineers at Pico could provide some advice about what pc's we need to invest in for the latest versions of pico software!
Indeed, they sit there twiddling their thumbs all day with nothing better to do. Pico Automotive scopes are all around the world !! 26 or so Vehicle manufacturers have them as standard equipment to include Ferrari, Maserati & Aston Martin Lagonda. So thousands and thousands of PC variables going on and not complaining.

I have had a 3000 series for a decade or more. I use it on vehicles valued at £200k plus second hand. NVH & WPS included on an old XP laptop.It works as it should each time every time. Period !!

It makes measurements, it cannot do any more than that. I fix the car !!! Not the scope - ME !! "WYSIWYG"

Perhaps you would be best served once directed to HP forum or whatever laptop you have. Perhaps Go whinge there ?

You are shooting the messenger here. That's not nice !

I


On another thread you ruined on here also you advised with reference to point 1 above that you do indeed have a NVH kit, some three years old you said, and you said it has never been out of the box. Clearly you have no experience with that equipment either.

I am experiencing a genuine concern with the operation of either the equipment or the computers affecting the equipment operation, I don't know which, I certainly don't think I'm being out of place by asking professionals for their advice. But please bare in mind, I never asked for your advice. Nothing you have replied to on either of my threads has been either useful or correct information. On all accounts you have been wrong.

Again, may I politely request that you re-frame from replying to my threads and posts. You are not the type of character I want to associate with. Thank you.

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Re: NVH Road Test

Post by Iver » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:39 am

re-frame from replying to my threads and posts
What is the meaning of "Re-Frame" ?

Since when did you start making the Rules on this Forum ?

I did google it and got
""re-frame is build on top of ClojureScript which is unusually expressive, so that you can briefly and clearly write your code.""

That didn't help !
you do indeed have a NVH kit, some three years old you said, and you said it has never been out of the box. Clearly you have no experience with that equipment either.
NVH is an acceleration sensor (same as YawRate or Lateral Acceleration Sensor) & a Microphone. It is not rocket science is it?
And Rocket Science is only science which I have in abundance quite clearly.

Once again, I'm back to the popcorn, don't be holding your breath for more input from me.

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