NVH & HGV/Off Highway

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ben.martins
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NVH & HGV/Off Highway

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Hi all,

Hope all are safe and well?

Just wanted to get some general feedback on those that might be using Pico NVH in the HGV and Off Highway sector.

I believe some users have mentioned it before and using NVH with J1939 and I was interested to know who has had success in getting engine and/or road speed successfully and with which VCI's.

So far I've tried and have had success with -

Jaltest
USBLink2 (NexIq)
DrewLinq (Drewtech/Opus)
DPA5 (Dearborn group)
Bosch

If anyone has any feedback on using NVH with these devices for HGV and Off Highway please let me know.

Kind regards

Ben

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Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

Post by bobbb999 »

Hi ben
I successfully use VCI protocol as J1939 on NVH
the device is ELM327. correction for 24v
But there are some wrong in the gear postion
refer to the FB post:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/PicoSco ... cale=tw_TW

thanks

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Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

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Hi bobbb999,

I did see in the ELM327 handbook that you can configure it for J1939 and nice to hear you have got it working. I don't doubt that there will be some issues with gear positions especially with a split box. I assume that you will have added the gear ratios in to the vehicle setup.

You can also use the gear positioning option when selecting Channel D tach input.

We have added a new feature request to the software which is to allow the user to override the automatic gear position call out and instead allow the user to input the gear position using the arrows. The gear changing in the software will of course be the responsibility of the person in charge of the laptop. The other way is to use a microphone during the recording to narrate the gear positioning which will be recorded with the capture.

I know this isn't perfect but it thanks to people like yourself using the software and providing us the feedback we can work on making the software better.

Kind regards

Ben

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Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

Post by krabkakes »

Hey Ben,

We teach an NVH class to our dealerships. Our warranty department has a preferred NVH tool that they pay claims for using but it's not the PS NVH. However, we use the PS NVH to help explain what the other tool is doing and the logic behind it.

We have had success using the DrewLinq and the NEXIQ USB-Link2. We primarily use the USB-Link2 though as that's by far the most common VCI we have.

If you need any more information or input, we can chat about it on teams or email.

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Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

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Thanks krabkakes,

Sad times they don't accept PS NVH but appreciate that some VM's will already have an NVH solution in place. Great to hear you're using it in training though as hopefully the visualization of the signals helps the delegates with the understanding.

I have had the same success with both DrewLinq and NexIQ USB Link 1 & 2 as well as the DPA05 pro. In theory the J1939 option should allow any RP1210 device to connect to our NVH software. We only 'sniff' the bus for the relevant data packets in order to obtain engine and road speed so it's less complicated behind then scenes when compared with J2534.

Thanks for letting me know and if you fancy a chat sometime on NVH, or anything else, please let me know.

Kind regards

Ben

David Hayes

Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

Post by David Hayes »

Ok, more progress. The j1939 to obd2 cable I ordered showed up and I was able to connect that to the Polaris to obd2 cable I had, and then connect my nexiq blue-link mini from my RV to it. As I suspected, the blue-link was able to connect and read everything. It can even read inactive and active codes.

NEXIQ 2 USB Link API Support:
RP1210A, RP1210B
J2534-2
USB vehicle-to-PC connectivity, XTruck USB linke supports Windows xp and windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit and windows CE compliant
Not all applications are included. If compatibility confirmation is required, more information is needed, or there are questions about an unlisted application, please contact us, a specialist will help you make the right choice.

NEXIQ 2 Protocol Coverage:
CAN - J1939/CAN125/CAN250/CAN500/CAN1000
2nd CAN - J1939/CAN125/CAN250/CAN500/CAN1000
J1587/J1708 J1850 J2534
ISO 15765 (Diagnostic CAN)
ISO 14230 (KWP2000 over ISO9141) ALDL ATEC 160 (160 baud)

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Re: NVH & HGV/Off Highway

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Hi David,

Thank you for the update and great to hear you're getting a connection with the NexIQ Blue Link Mini. Out of interest is the Blue Link Mini purely BlueTooth? It would be interesting to see how well this connects with the Pico NVH. My feeling is it might not work as it's using the RP1227 protocol which is used for mobile API. I have had some success with Bluetooth adapters in cars using J2534 but it can be a little hit and miss. I do prefer a direct link using USB to prevent communication dropouts.

Thanks again and interesting to see there is a new model coming out which will support CAN FD! https://www.nexiq.com/Product/Detail/EESM608A

Kind regards

Ben

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