PicoScope 7 Automotive
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Hello from Spain!!
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Walterronny
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Hello from Spain!!
Hi! im happy to receive tomorrow my new Picoscope equipment. i already have another oscilloscope just always wanted a picoscope due big development in software i think. My big goal right now is to "decoder" a Kline from a Honda Civic model, it has a kinda multiplexer that send signal to coolant temp, also it send messange when A/C is ON - OFF . i already tried with a logi analyzer but we want to measure too a line where maybe goes up to 12v in some case..i hope to get it done using picoscope, anyway i hope you can help me up a bit trying it when i get info using picoscope. i already reserach about kline and there is a good "write-up" about kline but i think it's a bit different, here is more info https://www.hondata.com/help/kmanager/i ... output.htm, problem is i didnt get any signal similar to it so i will try another line that goes after ecu send the signal to multiplex module.
Just asking if there is any option that software can compare different packs of signal ? i means, you know kline send packs of info , in the case there is any change in other pack in the same measurment, software would detect it? Thank you in advance!!
W.
Just asking if there is any option that software can compare different packs of signal ? i means, you know kline send packs of info , in the case there is any change in other pack in the same measurment, software would detect it? Thank you in advance!!
W.
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Steve Smith
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Re: Hello from Spain!!
Hello W and thank you for the introduction, welcome to the forum
It sounds like your PicoScope cannot arrive a moment too soon as you need to decode whist also monitoring analogue events such as voltage etc.
This is where PicoScope comes into its own as you can capture K-Line serial data prior too, during and after the offending analogue event
PicoScope will also help you decide if the offending analogue event is the cause of any K-Line serial data errors or a consequence of (i.e. erroneous instruction)
Regarding K-Line decoding, please see Ben’s post here viewtopic.php?p=101250#p101250 which will provide you with packet orders and the facility to query the decoded data for errors that may or may not coincide with analogue events
The following video looks at CAN (not K-Line) but does include the technique used to capture and correlate both an analogue event (Brake pedal activation) and serial data (CAN data filed) containing this “Brake on/off" message simultaneously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Uqou348uk&t=7s
I hope the above helps and please feel free to share you PicoScope experiences both good and bad as a new user and good luck with the Honda
You may already know, our distributor in Spain (MIAC) carries out an immense amount of support and training for our customers throughout Spain and beyond, their contact details should you need them are below
Take care.......Steve
It sounds like your PicoScope cannot arrive a moment too soon as you need to decode whist also monitoring analogue events such as voltage etc.
This is where PicoScope comes into its own as you can capture K-Line serial data prior too, during and after the offending analogue event
PicoScope will also help you decide if the offending analogue event is the cause of any K-Line serial data errors or a consequence of (i.e. erroneous instruction)
Regarding K-Line decoding, please see Ben’s post here viewtopic.php?p=101250#p101250 which will provide you with packet orders and the facility to query the decoded data for errors that may or may not coincide with analogue events
The following video looks at CAN (not K-Line) but does include the technique used to capture and correlate both an analogue event (Brake pedal activation) and serial data (CAN data filed) containing this “Brake on/off" message simultaneously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Uqou348uk&t=7s
I hope the above helps and please feel free to share you PicoScope experiences both good and bad as a new user and good luck with the Honda
You may already know, our distributor in Spain (MIAC) carries out an immense amount of support and training for our customers throughout Spain and beyond, their contact details should you need them are below
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Walterronny
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Re: Hello from Spain!!
Thanks for your reply Steven! a big mistake that i didnt know is i can't use picoauto with 2000series picoscope 
. received today and installed and shown it's not compatible, i dont know if Picoscope 7 T&M version will works for try to decoding Kline too..i hope so!!!
. received today and installed and shown it's not compatible, i dont know if Picoscope 7 T&M version will works for try to decoding Kline too..i hope so!!!-
Steve Smith
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Re: Hello from Spain!!
Oh no! Sorry, I had assumed you would receive an Auto scope
Before you get going, could you take a look here where we summarize the difference between the T&M and Auto scope options viewtopic.php?p=87821#p87821
Please refer back to Ben's decoder forum post as this utilises RS232/UART for K-Line so you might be ok
You may however struggle with vertical resolution and sampling so please take it step by step
I hope this helps, take care......Steve
Before you get going, could you take a look here where we summarize the difference between the T&M and Auto scope options viewtopic.php?p=87821#p87821
Please refer back to Ben's decoder forum post as this utilises RS232/UART for K-Line so you might be ok
You may however struggle with vertical resolution and sampling so please take it step by step
I hope this helps, take care......Steve
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Walterronny
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Re: Hello from Spain!!
Not really, didnt see any advice about it, should be sticky that info for new users! i already took some measurements and im having some kinda problems for to see a "solid" signals i will open a new thread about it, thank you ver much!!
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Steve Smith
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Re: Hello from Spain!!
Hello and thank you for the feedback
The following link will help viewtopic.php?p=105563#p105563
Take care......Steve
The following link will help viewtopic.php?p=105563#p105563
Take care......Steve